Comments for Revelation | Apocalypse | God in Christianity http://www.revelation.co Articles and Answers about God, the Bible, Jesus, Religion, & Theology Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:40:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Why Did God Put A Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil In Garden of Eden by Ben http://www.revelation.co/2008/08/04/why-did-god-put-a-tree-of-knowledge-of-good-and-evil-in-garden-of-eden/comment-page-1/#comment-42 Ben Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:40:28 +0000 http://revelation.co/2008/08/04/why-did-god-put-a-tree-of-knowledge-of-good-and-evil-in-garden-of-eden/#comment-42 Wow, that was a great explanation, and I agree with you. I am sure there could have been several reasons why God did this, or allowed Satan to do it. It is a great question, and I think that there are more than 1 reasonable explanations as to why God could have allowed the tree to be kept there. People often try to use it to dismiss God's as being evil, but I don't think that is the case at all! Great point! Wow, that was a great explanation, and I agree with you. I am sure there could have been several reasons why God did this, or allowed Satan to do it. It is a great question, and I think that there are more than 1 reasonable explanations as to why God could have allowed the tree to be kept there.

People often try to use it to dismiss God’s as being evil, but I don’t think that is the case at all! Great point!

]]> Comment on Why Did God Put A Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil In Garden of Eden by carol woodall http://www.revelation.co/2008/08/04/why-did-god-put-a-tree-of-knowledge-of-good-and-evil-in-garden-of-eden/comment-page-1/#comment-41 carol woodall Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:12:23 +0000 http://revelation.co/2008/08/04/why-did-god-put-a-tree-of-knowledge-of-good-and-evil-in-garden-of-eden/#comment-41 The roots of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil are planted deep into the beginning of time when Lucifer decided to puff himself up against God. God created angels before he created humans. Some of the angels rebelled against God under the leadership of an arch angel named Lucifer, who was in charge of music and worship. Lucifer wanted to be God, take the place of God, and compete with God. Lucifer considered himself to have knowledge greater than God. Lucifer introduced evil. Before “evil” was introduced there was only “good”. Hence: We now have the knowledge of good and evil. Lucifer’s name is also called Satin, the serpent, a dragon, and a few other terms found in the Bible. As a consequence of his rebellion against God, Satan introduced Death. Death is a spiritual separation from God for eternity. Before death was introduced, there was no choice of it, LIFE was the plan for all of us, we didn’t have Life, it was our inheritance. Along with Satin, there were angels that followed Satan’s lordship. The angels that followed Satan also rebelled against God, therefore introducing CHOICE. They chose to follow Satan, (death) instead of following God, (life). God then created humans. He created humans in his own image. Compared to Angels, we were created to fellowship ( communicate) with God, receive His love, and voluntarily love and worship Him. He actually wants to talk with us and share His kingdom and all that comes with it. He gave it all to us. He wants us to see him as our spiritual Father as He sees us as His children. Unfortunately, death, the knowledge of good and evil, and an option of choice exist because of the fall of Lucifer. Adam and Eve were the first humans. You know the story. Now comes the part where God tells them about the trees in the garden. He tells them all about the tree of life. He said that they could eat all they wanted from the tree of life. Unfortunately, He has to tell Adam about the tree of knowledge of good and evil (because it exists now) and he warns Adam of what will happen (the consequence) if he partakes of it, because he has to be made aware of the danger (just as a loving father forbids his child to touch a burning stove have to know about and it is dangerous, the child has to be made aware of it and be warned not to touch it or he will get burned). Now Adam and Eve are faced with trusting God, and believe that He is telling them the truth. Just like the innocent child that is faced with trusting that his dad is telling him the truth about the hot stove. You know what happens next. (Note: I think the Adam didn’t communicate with Eve very well and didn’t tell her everything that God told him, (bad communication still exists today between husbands and wives). Today God is still asking us to trust Him and choose the tree of life. Just as in the Garden of Eden. God gave Adam and Eve a choice to choose the fruit of the tree of life, and gave them fair warning about choosing the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Because of the fall of Adam and Eve, we are now faced with DOUBTING GOD. They didn’t trust God, by not taking Him at His Word (Roma). They doubted His Word (Roma). He warned them of the consequences. He didn’t make up the consequence of death, Satin is the one who put into motion the consequence of death and hell. Hell only exists because of Satin. Hell was made for Satin, his followers, and demons. That’s what is wrapped up in the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, DEATH: Natural and spiritual death. But there’s more. There is HOPE! The tree of life still exists today. We still have a chance to choose to partake of it. A chance to choose life. The reason that God sent Adam and Eve away from the garden is so they wouldn’t partake of the tree of life, Also, because the curse, or consequence was set into motion. If they would have taken of the tree of life at that time, death would be a permanent eternal fixture to life. The wages of sin is death, shedding of blood. Life would go on without the hope of eternal life with God. Death could not be undone if they were to eat of the fruit of life. Adam and Eve used their free will to doubt God. Because of them we now know what death is. They didn’t know what death was, it was not even a concept they could comprehend. They experienced separation from God, Life, for eternity. Bodily and spiritual death. Because the tree of life still exists, we have the hope of life that is eternal, spiritual. Our bodies will die because of Adam and Eve but our spiritual lives have a chance to live eternally. The second Adam was born. Christmas is approaching us and we celebrate His birth. The wages of sin is death. (Sin = disobeying God). The second Adam experienced death, once and for all. He took our place in death. His body died but His Spirit, the same Spirit that unites us with God and is eternal, came back to life in a new body. Referred to as the Body of God, He can live in each and all of us. Our human bodies will die (thanks to the first Adam) but our united spirit with God will live eternally with new body (Thanks to the second Adam, Jesus). The cross is the tree of Life. It took death on that tree for us to experience new life, eternal life. It’s all in the Bible. The Bible may have been written by humans but it can only be fully understood by the Spirit of God. There are spiritual messages beyond the words. The people who wrote it didn’t even realize what they were writing, the impact it makes now when read through spiritual interpretation or insight. They didn’t have the Spirit of God in them until after Jesus died. The Spirit of God (referred to as the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost) could not be released to humans until the tree of life was partaken from. Jesus partook of the tree of life by dying on it (wages of sin is death,). He conquered the power of death. We can partake of the fruit of the tree of life now. It’s a free gift, it was bought by Jesus, He paid for it with his blood. (Before Jesus came to the earth, people killed pure innocent lambs and goats as a sacrifice for sin, (the shedding of innocent blood in death was the accepted atonement.) I will write more about Jesus later. The Bible is a guide that leads us to Jesus. Jesus Christ is the Living Word Of God that can live in us by His Spirit. He is the Living Word Of God. Scriptures reerances: Fall of Lucifer and angels: Is. 14:12 / Mat. 25:31 Rev. 12:9, Gen. 3:1,14,15 Only “Good” existed before the fall of Satan (Lucifer): Gen. 1:4-31 God created us in His image, withholding nothing : Ps 1: 26, 27; Gen 5:3, 8:4-9, 9:6 Also: 1 Jn 1:3, 1 Jn 1:6, Phil 2:1, Eph 3:9, Romans 8:17 God give us a new nature when we eat of the fruit of the tree of life: Eph 2: all of it. God told Adam and Eve everything they needed to know about the trees in the garden, that they could eat from the tree of life and that the other tree was the knowledge of good and evil and the result from partaking from it would result in death, (the surpant told them that God didn’t tell them everything and was keeping all the knowledge for Himself, they believed satans lies: Gen 1:11-3:3Gen 2:9-17 I will send more scriptures on this topic soon The roots of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil are planted deep into the beginning of time when Lucifer decided to puff himself up against God.

God created angels before he created humans. Some of the angels rebelled against God under the leadership of an arch angel named Lucifer, who was in charge of music and worship. Lucifer wanted to be God, take the place of God, and compete with God. Lucifer considered himself to have knowledge greater than God. Lucifer introduced evil. Before “evil” was introduced there was only “good”. Hence: We now have the knowledge of good and evil.

Lucifer’s name is also called Satin, the serpent, a dragon, and a few other terms found in the Bible. As a consequence of his rebellion against God, Satan introduced Death. Death is a spiritual separation from God for eternity. Before death was introduced, there was no choice of it, LIFE was the plan for all of us, we didn’t have Life, it was our inheritance.

Along with Satin, there were angels that followed Satan’s lordship. The angels that followed Satan also rebelled against God, therefore introducing CHOICE. They chose to follow Satan, (death) instead of following God, (life).

God then created humans. He created humans in his own image. Compared to Angels, we were created to fellowship ( communicate) with God, receive His love, and voluntarily love and worship Him. He actually wants to talk with us and share His kingdom and all that comes with it. He gave it all to us. He wants us to see him as our spiritual Father as He sees us as His children. Unfortunately, death, the knowledge of good and evil, and an option of choice exist because of the fall of Lucifer.

Adam and Eve were the first humans. You know the story. Now comes the part where God tells them about the trees in the garden. He tells them all about the tree of life. He said that they could eat all they wanted from the tree of life. Unfortunately, He has to tell Adam about the tree of knowledge of good and evil (because it exists now) and he warns Adam of what will happen (the consequence) if he partakes of it, because he has to be made aware of the danger (just as a loving father forbids his child to touch a burning stove have to know about and it is dangerous, the child has to be made aware of it and be warned not to touch it or he will get burned).

Now Adam and Eve are faced with trusting God, and believe that He is telling them the truth. Just like the innocent child that is faced with trusting that his dad is telling him the truth about the hot stove.

You know what happens next.
(Note: I think the Adam didn’t communicate with Eve very well and didn’t tell her everything that God told him, (bad communication still exists today between husbands and wives).

Today God is still asking us to trust Him and choose the tree of life. Just as in the Garden of Eden. God gave Adam and Eve a choice to choose the fruit of the tree of life, and gave them fair warning about choosing the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Because of the fall of Adam and Eve, we are now faced with DOUBTING GOD. They didn’t trust God, by not taking Him at His Word (Roma). They doubted His Word (Roma). He warned them of the consequences. He didn’t make up the consequence of death, Satin is the one who put into motion the consequence of death and hell. Hell only exists because of Satin. Hell was made for Satin, his followers, and demons. That’s what is wrapped up in the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, DEATH: Natural and spiritual death.

But there’s more. There is HOPE! The tree of life still exists today. We still have a chance to choose to partake of it. A chance to choose life.

The reason that God sent Adam and Eve away from the garden is so they wouldn’t partake of the tree of life, Also, because the curse, or consequence was set into motion. If they would have taken of the tree of life at that time, death would be a permanent eternal fixture to life. The wages of sin is death, shedding of blood. Life would go on without the hope of eternal life with God. Death could not be undone if they were to eat of the fruit of life.

Adam and Eve used their free will to doubt God. Because of them we now know what death is. They didn’t know what death was, it was not even a concept they could comprehend. They experienced separation from God, Life, for eternity. Bodily and spiritual death.

Because the tree of life still exists, we have the hope of life that is eternal, spiritual. Our bodies will die because of Adam and Eve but our spiritual lives have a chance to live eternally.

The second Adam was born. Christmas is approaching us and we celebrate His birth.

The wages of sin is death. (Sin = disobeying God). The second Adam experienced death, once and for all. He took our place in death. His body died but His Spirit, the same Spirit that unites us with God and is eternal, came back to life in a new body. Referred to as the Body of God, He can live in each and all of us. Our human bodies will die (thanks to the first Adam) but our united spirit with God will live eternally with new body (Thanks to the second Adam, Jesus).

The cross is the tree of Life. It took death on that tree for us to experience new life, eternal life.

It’s all in the Bible. The Bible may have been written by humans but it can only be fully understood by the Spirit of God. There are spiritual messages beyond the words. The people who wrote it didn’t even realize what they were writing, the impact it makes now when read through spiritual interpretation or insight. They didn’t have the Spirit of God in them until after Jesus died. The Spirit of God (referred to as the Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost) could not be released to humans until the tree of life was partaken from. Jesus partook of the tree of life by dying on it (wages of sin is death,). He conquered the power of death. We can partake of the fruit of the tree of life now. It’s a free gift, it was bought by Jesus, He paid for it with his blood.

(Before Jesus came to the earth, people killed pure innocent lambs and goats as a sacrifice for sin, (the shedding of innocent blood in death was the accepted atonement.)

I will write more about Jesus later. The Bible is a guide that leads us to Jesus. Jesus Christ is the Living Word Of God that can live in us by His Spirit. He is the Living Word Of God.

Scriptures reerances:

Fall of Lucifer and angels: Is. 14:12 / Mat. 25:31 Rev. 12:9, Gen. 3:1,14,15
Only “Good” existed before the fall of Satan (Lucifer): Gen. 1:4-31
God created us in His image, withholding nothing : Ps 1: 26, 27; Gen 5:3, 8:4-9, 9:6
Also: 1 Jn 1:3, 1 Jn 1:6, Phil 2:1, Eph 3:9, Romans 8:17
God give us a new nature when we eat of the fruit of the tree of life: Eph 2: all of it.

God told Adam and Eve everything they needed to know about the trees in the garden, that they could eat from the tree of life and that the other tree was the knowledge of good and evil and the result from partaking from it would result in death, (the surpant told them that God didn’t tell them everything and was keeping all the knowledge for Himself, they believed satans lies: Gen 1:11-3:3Gen 2:9-17

I will send more scriptures on this topic soon

]]> Comment on Is the Shroud of Turin Real? Is it Jesus Christ’s Burial Cloth? by Dan Porter http://www.revelation.co/2008/09/04/is-the-shroud-of-turin-real-is-it-jesus-christs-burial-cloth/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Dan Porter Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:28:31 +0000 http://revelation.co/2008/09/04/is-the-shroud-of-turin-real-is-it-jesus-christs-burial-cloth/#comment-7 Thanks for an excellent posting. I'm a bit more confident, perhaps, than you, but I fully appreciate your sentiment of not wanting to base one's faith too much on the shroud. Glad I found your site. Dan Thanks for an excellent posting. I’m a bit more confident, perhaps, than you, but I fully appreciate your sentiment of not wanting to base one’s faith too much on the shroud. Glad I found your site.

Dan

]]> Comment on Is the Shroud of Turin Real? Is it Jesus Christ’s Burial Cloth? by Is the Shroud of Turin Real? Is it Jesus Christ’s Burial Cloth? « Shroud of Turin Blog http://www.revelation.co/2008/09/04/is-the-shroud-of-turin-real-is-it-jesus-christs-burial-cloth/comment-page-1/#comment-6 Is the Shroud of Turin Real? Is it Jesus Christ’s Burial Cloth? « Shroud of Turin Blog Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:25:49 +0000 http://revelation.co/2008/09/04/is-the-shroud-of-turin-real-is-it-jesus-christs-burial-cloth/#comment-6 [...] Turin Real? Is it Jesus Christ’s Burial Cloth? An interesting posting over at the blog Discovering God’s Holy Plan. I’m a bit more confident than the author, but I fully appreciate his sentiment of not [...] [...] Turin Real? Is it Jesus Christ’s Burial Cloth? An interesting posting over at the blog Discovering God’s Holy Plan. I’m a bit more confident than the author, but I fully appreciate his sentiment of not [...]

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